The creators of FirstRand - Laurie Dippenaar, GT Ferreira and Paul Harris - are rightly proud of what they have achieved.

From a small merchant bank in the late 1970s and with only R10000 capital, they built a huge financial conglomerate affecting the lives of nearly every South African.

In the process they gained vast personal wealth for themselves. But they have been sensitive to criticism that more could be shared with shareholders and management.

A programme has been put in place whereby parts of their personal shareholdings in FirstRand are being sold to present management, so preparing a new generation of entrepreneurs to continue building on what they created.

The most recent rich-list compiled by Business Times places Dippenaar as the fifth-wealthiest individual in the country. A simple calculation of his 2,3% interest in FirstRand, and his 6,4% in Rand Merchant Bank Holdings (RMBH), shows his personal worth at R5,2bn.

Dippenaar, however, disputes the figure and says his direct and indirect beneficial shareholding in FirstRand amounts to 3,56m shares. “That represents the full amount of my shareholding in the group.”

The additional 126,9m FirstRand shares he holds, but identified as “indirect through RMBH”, are the shares he owns through his 90,6m RMBH shares. “This look-through was incorrectly interpreted and caused a double count.”

He is, however, not willing to do the arithmetic to settle the controversy and states he is not really interested in the rankings. “They are somewhat meaningless as they reflect only information in the public domain and do not take into account unlisted shares and property portfolios.”

If the “look-through” shareholding is excluded, it could mean that Dippenaar’s present wealth could have been overstated by roughly R2bn. However, the Business Times calculations exclude Dippenaar’s interest of roughly 6% in RMI Holdings, the holding company of MMI Holdings which manages FirstRand’s previous insurance interests in Momentum and Outsurance. This could add at least another R1,2bn at today’s share price to his personal wealth. Dippenaar is nonexecutive chairman of MMI Holdings.

Though not comparable with Dippenaar’s, Ferreira and Harris also hold sizeable interests in FirstRand-related companies.

Ferreira has divested himself from FirstRand but is still nonexecutive chairman of RMBH, owning 6,18% of its shares worth more than R2,4bn. Harris’s fortune is estimated at R1,7bn through his 2,13% interest in RMBH and 0,81% in FirstRand. The fourth founding father , Pat Goss, is usually excluded from the group but has been quietly amassing a small fortune of more than R600m in the past decade as a FirstRand director. His connection with the three dates back to the days when he and Dippenaar worked at the Industrial Development Corp.

The interests of the founders , together with their present nonexecutive role in the company, is not without controversy. The King 3 recommendations state it is preferable that an independent nonexecutive director should be someone who does not represent a controlling or major shareholding. “He should not have a direct or indirect interest in the company.”

Dippenaar’s reaction is that they have never projected themselves as “independent” nonexecutives. They strongly emphasise their nonexecutive roles which, he believes, are not in conflict with the King code . Dippenaar says the reality is that he is nonexecutive, even more so because he was in a nonexecutive role at FirstRand for three years between 2005 and 2008 before he assumed the chairmanship of the group. “ Paul Harris and I are nonexecutive directors only, with GT not even sitting on the FirstRand board any longer.”

He will put suggestions to CEO Sizwe Nxasana and COO Johan Burger at times. “I am available to the senior management team of FirstRand as a sounding board on any strategic issue, should they wish to engage with me.”

Nxasana, Burger, Peter Cooper as CEO of RMBH and Michael Jordaan as FNB CEO have all been purchasers of shares that have been made available to them by the founders . To date these amount to R398,4m, which pales in comparison with the nearly R10bn that Dippenaar, Harris and Ferreira own.

Dippenaar is reticent about providing information about his private life, in contrast with Ferreira and Harris who have extensive private interests. Dippenaar is a Springbok rugby fan and attended the World Cup rugby in New Zealand. He is also a fan of investment guru Warren Buffett and clearly emulates Buffett’s successful long-term approach to investing.

Dippenaar has indicated that he is not planning to relinquish his nonexecutive chairmanship within the next five years at least.

Ferreira’s focus is on his wine interests and his estate, Tokara, near Franschhoek . Of the three he has the least exposure to the group’s activities and usually visits the Sandton office once a week, which has, according to some sources, become even less regular . He has been the nonexecutive chair of RMB Holdings since 1987.

Harris, known as the out-of-the box thinker, has extensive art interests but also has time for other activities, including accepting an honorary professorship in business management at the University of Stellenbosch.

He was also involved in the management of Cricket SA.